Speaker 0: Subs. SOAP. Cost. Okay. You can also see that. I feel like this is way higher than I thought our Speaker 1: number was. Yeah. I think that this this number is definitely higher than what the first one we did was. But we'll see. Because obviously, like like I said, I mean, it it could be punctual in other places. It could be not on the right numbers, so that's So we have to have it in here for not for all the testing purposes. But Speaker 0: That's gonna be great when this works because I just took on two more projects now that one of our PMs is leaving. Yep. Yeah. No. That was our PC. Landon is also leaving. Sean of peace. Speaker 1: The MPC. Other piece. Like, we're just here, two letters on demo. Speaker 2: What? Speaker 1: No. I was just saying, like, we just hear, like, two letters for these people all day long. It's like, Yes. Exactly. There's so many. EMA, PMTC. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2: It was a. I don't need a pair of lawyer to use my title. I'm still PM ing Speaker 3: Okay. So that's it succeeded in Speaker 1: It should update. I mean, we're we're always changing oh, yeah. So SOAP updated. Yeah. That's kind of, like, a very, very, very simplified version of what's Beau on the background. Mhmm. And kind workflow, like, loading the stuff that we've built is actually what's running in each step there. So like like, he said, we've been, like, tweaking everything. So I'm not sure exactly how close this one will be. We're also giving things confidence score. So if the AI estimates the Hostinger something and it thinks it's like, really, really accurate, it'll give you a like, compliance score in the green. Right? Yeah. And that's for, like, very high accuracy. Most of the things will be in the yellow because it doesn't wanna give or, like, at least Beau don't wanna set it up where unless it's, like, 99% giving it a 100%, like, accuracy, you know, giving it a green So anything below that can still be, like, really accurate in the yellow. And then if it's, like, actually, like, wanting you to review it, it'll be in the red. K. And then you should be able to see every single line of the different, like, I guess, it was a diff disciplines. Mhmm. So should be able to, like, see everything and kind of, like, audit it yourself whenever you review it. And you'll be able to see that whenever this finishes. Any second. So, like, I said the whole process in your Speaker 3: how long does it take you with the actual cost estimation? You have analysis. Speaker 1: SOAP, like, Speaker 0: it it would take me a few hours just to run through the drawings. And scope it out. And then I would I mean, I would I send a to thirty days actually flying out of object and contacting. So contractors been getting pricing. Speaker 1: You know? So Speaker 3: sixty a few hours, Speaker 0: Especially, I mean, if it's working on, like, Ryan scopes. You know what I mean? That, I mean, that can take upwards of thirty days to write all those contracts out. Speaker 3: Well, hopefully, I'll obviously get all nailed down. SOAP, about the thing with with Lori, we got access to Spectrum Okay. We have to do SOAP, like, n8n Speaker 1: it was so bad because then there was, like, oh, yeah. Try this and then try this and then try this. And I'm like, bro, nothing is workflow. And I don't wanna do this, like I don't think you should be able to do Beau. Oh, yeah. So just last night, we got everything figured out. So I think we should be good, to, like, start building that stuff. I I tried to build as much as I could without, like, immediate access to everything. So saying that I didn't have, like, real DMSA, but as far as, like, the actions Yardi started to build out some of that. Okay. Beau, yeah, that's coming hopefully, this week. I really wanna get that done as soon as I can because I don't Yeah. I think there's Speaker 0: they're talking about another check run either the end of this week or next week. Speaker 2: So I don't know if y'all want a test run off of an actual check run Speaker 0: Like, Lori can still do her, like, manual part of it. Yeah. Okay. And that way, we can just double check, like, what she had to go back in and do versus Speaker 1: what it picked up that it was supposed to do. I think that's definitely what we wanna do. Just to kinda test it and see. Yeah. And just have it basically instead of actually, like, producing the outputs, it would just give us, like, a a ghost output, basically. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that's as way to go about it. I think that's how majority of everything that we're gonna, like, initially test on the work have to do, like, a real run-in parallel. And then whenever it gets close enough or it is spot on, then where is it? Okay. Good. Let's let it, like, actually deploy. I need to get with your dad too because Speaker 0: don't I honestly don't know how long he's gonna stay. Speaker 3: Oh, really? Yeah. With her having to do all of her stuff. So there might be a lot more of her stuff that we're gonna Speaker 0: have to analyze. Okay. Or whatever you call this. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because I I just Are you gonna stay? Speaker 1: Yeah. I bet she was like, no. SOAP Speaker 0: See, I mean, the cost estimation portion of this is something that we've never been privy to. Right? I mean, we can go get a cost from a subcontractor, but this will give us a good idea of where the true market value is of it. Versus what the market is gonna be that you're I mean, it's Sometimes you have to make money. Right? And it's typically anywhere from 20 to 22% markup. But it'll it'll be just a good starting point. Speaker 2: Of this is what the cost of work would actually cost Speaker 0: and then this Wait. Did you say a a 22 to 22% markup? For a seven to 10 work. Okay. Cool. I I I didn't hear you. I was looking at this. I just wanna make sure I was Speaker 3: Yep. There you go. So this finish so basically, Speaker 1: What was yours? OAuth. Three or I think that I think we shot high. Think we shot high. Yeah. It's 3.7 or 3.1. 3.1, and then you had 456. Shot high. So what I said, Speaker 0: SOAP right now in general. I'm kinda curious to see. Yeah. So right now, we're trying to just get the information Speaker 1: make sure we're pulling all the right stuff Landon then from there, make sure we're getting the right amount. SOAP, like, right now, it's, like, trying to get the right amounts just based on, like, what we have built. Yeah. But once we know we're getting the right information, Mhmm. Then we'll try to refine the actual dollar amount. Okay. Speaker 0: Yeah. Because this could okay. So the older we left, the original budget, Right? And then you can also see Beau on the column all the way to the right that that's That also includes Landon includes chambers. K. Which might have drawing changes that maybe were not uploaded in Procore. Yeah. You know what I mean? Okay. Yeah. So, Speaker 3: you know, false and real, acts and things that I had tweaked, and so it could be running behind earlier instead of the 2¢. K. And SOAP Beau need to figure out if you look at the the estimate of confidence, 16 things are high. 94 n8n Speaker 0: course, I don't I don't really does the art development team bids out the architectural and Speaker 2: Okay. Civil scopes. They're the ones that actually design the architect and the engineers stuff like that. But as far as, like, the electrical or plumbing, Speaker 0: or anything like that, we can go in and check my commitments. And see what that stuff actually quoted me Speaker 3: Okay. Was there any electrical in and see if a multistate average electrical contract for training lessons. It doesn't have that find out why I Speaker 0: Yeah. I mean, I would I'd be curious to see what it's picking up from the electrical drawings that it's inputting that number to. Right? So if you go find the electrician so the title of it is here, and then it's the contract company. So Spectrum, go down more right there. K. And then go click over here on the blue. Mhmm. Well, that'd be, like, the actual Oh, click on contact number. Yeah. That little drop down that you saw, that was all their change orders. So scroll down. So that's their cost. So the revised contract amount with all our change orders is 213,000. Speaker 2: See, this is $1.35, so this is low. So their original was $1.01 81. Speaker 0: So then scroll down. Keep coming. All the way to the distribution. Okay. There you can see their total work. Speaker 3: Gray. And that way, if it keeps back to you while we picked up line items x Speaker 0: y, and z, you can go back and see k. Now I will tell you, but you don't have to worry about, like, oh, the general stuff. That's blanket on every contract. Be careful with whose projects you use. A lot of PMs do not put enough information in their inclusions. They very they just blanket statement it with the contract off They don't break things out like I do. Speaker 2: K. Speaker 1: Okay. So we could basically reference, like, all these commitment things in here. Almost all of these? Well, none none of those will be in there. Speaker 3: The time of us doing this because Well, I'm just saying for, like, it's sent out. Right. But I'm saying for our general, like, testing right here. Like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And so, you know, it'll add discipline if it's, like, a certain, like, fire protection, obviously, it'll all these are here. I think, you know, most of these are Speaker 2: are fairly accurate. I know all this in in syllables are pretty accurate. Speaker 3: Like, it'll tell you what it's getting its number from, Okay. So, like, There's SOAP so much stuff on here. Yeah. Like, accessibility signage. This says, like, it has no clue. It's gonna be quite high. It says estimated based on occupancy, signed costs, and typically much smaller. So if this is a handicapped sign, yeah, they can make a call like, I don't know. Speaker 2: Yeah. Which, I mean, we don't honestly put any signs on our Speaker 0: our buildings at all. Except for the monument sign, which we carry typically $30 in our bids, but most of the time, it's gonna be more expensive than that. The only sign ups that we put on the building typically is gonna be the suite numbers because it's on the tent with the actual building sign on. Okay. Speaker 3: Okay. Perfect. Sean It didn't really know so it's estimated as supplementary cost and it would be 5 to 8 of that work system cost for installation materials and paper. Yeah. Because we don't run any ductwork either. Okay. Which is why they probably didn't pick that up, and they're like, Speaker 0: a linear foot or anything like that, because we literally dropped the condoms set the curves at the end, and we're done. Speaker 3: Okay. So it's just it's all the shell stuff. Yeah. Okay. So then so that's why why this came back so high because Speaker 6: all these things It's estimating the things that it probably that it thinks that will need to be Speaker 0: done, but it's stuff that we don't have. Yes. Yes. And we were talking to Landon, and he said, like, you guys are only doing the shelves now. Speaker 1: So that's something to think about too. Because you guys also like, we're doing this store with the data. Right? So we have those projects that you guys were doing both in the shells too. Do you get a TI stuff? So that definitely can be a factor as well. Because it's referencing all of that DMSA. Yeah. So to know which one's a shell, which one's a not, might which which one's not might be helpful. So, like, Amberwood is only a shell. Speaker 0: Only interior stuff I've done is, like, framed two dimmers. That's it. K. But it's literally just wood stud framing. That's the only interior work that I've done. On this job at all. Round Rock, there was no interior work Speaker 1: Round Rock. QuickBooks the view all. Speaker 3: I feel like there was Yeah. I'm I honestly I don't keep all of them in my brain. Speaker 2: Like, there's way different things that we have. Speaker 1: For some of them. Yeah. Let me Deepgram I going budget? Mhmm. K. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: SOAP this this got two, three original, and then projected over under was $1.06. So what would that be? $2.02 $1.05, basically, $2.01 4? Speaker 3: It's got $1.06, and that was before it was There was Speaker 1: there was a different round rock round rock one, I thought. That we did later than that one. No. It'd be great. Gosh. I Speaker 5: Oh, that one that one was a week ago. Speaker 3: All new stuff. I swear we did another one. Speaker 0: I'll see two in, like, the developer fees that are in the project I don't have anything to do with. So up up there on that line item up there, I will filter out all the developer costs because in that case, it would mean my true construction cost. Without developer fees. But the developer fees have, like, architectural symbols, stuff like that. But what I noticed on Android, it looks like when it's talking about the civil, that's where it's breaking out your concrete and all stuff. It's not breaking that out as its own scope. Yes. Kinda like what I have where I have, like, Speaker 2: the Speaker 0: well, just be building inside concrete. So that's that's where it's sitting on. So Speaker 3: so I can change it. Would you prefer if building a conference with some I Speaker 0: I mean, I don't know if there's any way to make make it kind of match the face code. Right? So most of our face codes are gonna stay the same project to project. Okay. I mean, I can see it being kind of based on phase Speaker 3: terms instead of just like, hey. These are the the disciplines. Well, okay. So, like, Speaker 2: if if you can do, like, concrete and it'll do Speaker 0: if they could break out your slab, your curb, your sidewalks, if you have concrete paving, sometimes you might have asphalt paving. Mhmm. Right? That would be a better help to somebody who doesn't have as much knowledge PM ing a job, to have those workflow out. Does that make sense? Yes. Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. So just I made it too difficult. No. No. No. No. No. No n8n Speaker 0: like, in in bidding a Procore, if we had numbers like this, long as we can get them to become a little bit more accurate and more scope based, I think it would be really helpful for people who just don't Realtime, like, they just see a number and they're like, that's under my bed job. I'll use it. Right? Yes. They don't actually truly know how to scope a job Okay. Which is the problem. Okay. Perfect. And then obviously, after Speaker 3: this, you know, Gray, And then say you approve it, this is the first way it goes out. We have obviously signed into you then say you approve it, this is the first we obviously because I need you to come here and we can help test and accurate. But you'll be able to, like, put notes, whatever, and then approve or reject it. And if you approve it, then we move on to the the sixth stage out there, which is a protocol command and creation assessment. We actually have our AI build the Speaker 0: Not any specific steps, but just the scopes in general. Yes. Speaker 3: Okay. That's when I actually started building the scopes. Yeah. Speaker 0: Perfect. Speaker 2: Gray. Perfect. And then Speaker 1: and then if you do reject or not sure the exact like, approach you wanna go. Right this second. Okay. Beau, like, obviously, if you reject it, there's, like, reasoning behind that. SOAP you not reject it and put the reason into why you're rejecting Speaker 0: on there? Well, yes. You totally Sean. And we're gonna have to think of Speaker 1: how we wanna, like, give that off to, like, the AI for, like, to redo the project. Okay. But I'm also thinking, like, I feel like majority of the time, if there's only a few things that you're changing, you might just wanna go look at them yourself Yeah. And then just figure it anyway. So yes, we will have, like, the reject feature, and that's probably something that we'll do towards the end, once we get this other chef built in. That way you have something that is workflow, and then we'll add that afterwards. Because that'll take a lot of, like, logic and stuff for the AI. Yeah. So that stuff's obviously Let's see. Drops stuff. G four m? Speaker 0: Yes. I really be curious for you guys to take the numbers that it's given and go back and compare to the actual commitments. Yeah. Landon then just kind of see how it's breaking down the scopes workflow work. Like, what is it picking up that this stuff's actually gonna have to do? Mhmm. Right? Yeah. A 100%. Speaker 3: You know, it's definitely do do you think this is more beneficial to you all or do you mean the the check runs? SOAP is more beneficial? Or there's just Beau what if there's I mean, Speaker 0: this is going to speed up the process to allow a a project manager to take on more. Okay. What was the original Speaker 1: what was the original round walk round rock golly. The one that you, tested earlier that you brought up, what did it get? It was one six. Okay. That one's the Amberwood? Yeah. Monroe got one six. Okay. So, like, in the commitments thing, there is, like, original contract amount is $1.06. And revised contract amount is $1.06. So maybe we just need to change where it's pulling from. Like, maybe I need to understand more of, like, the Speaker 2: from Speaker 0: which scroll all the way over to the left. K. Speaker 2: Okay. Woah. Where where? Speaker 0: Oh, you're you're under commitments. Okay. Yes. I was I was thinking you were in budget. I'm like, where in the hell are you? Well, so so the budget was Speaker 1: was higher. And then just, like, in the commitments, so budget originally was three. Commitments was one six. He Ashton six. Speaker 0: In the budget, the budget is including your architectural fees, your development fees, your civil design fees, and it has a lot of developer costs. So if you go back to budget Landon you wanna see just the true construction cost to compare it to the commitment, go up there and add a filter at the top here to the right. Right there. Do a cost type. Select all. Unselect developer. And then just click off of it. Gray. So, this is just our construction budget. Speaker 2: $1.06? Basically. Yeah. So that's actually Realtime similar. So I think Speaker 1: I think that's what we're we're getting right now. Maybe And we're not factoring in the developer cost. Developer cost, which is, like, Speaker 0: hiring the architect, hiring the civil engineer, the permit costs, I mean, all of that stuff. You know what I mean? So we're just thinking about, like, materials and stuff like that right now. Right. Supposed to mark materials and See, for Round Rock, now we got three long term. This is where Speaker 1: high. So I think maybe whenever we were changing some stuff, we maybe, I don't know. We might n8n done something different with them information. Because like you said, we've done a lot of tweaks. So it's just something we need to look n8n. But Can Yeah. The more information that we're getting from you, the better. We can make this on. By the way, we did have this meeting to, like, go over this stuff. Speaker 3: Yeah. Understand. And then, obviously, I I can just know, because this will require lots of speaking to make it super accurate. Mhmm. So what I can do is that I can just text you occasionally if I think what's gonna try to scope out, like, add subtracting number, look our system totally can be pulling the wrong number from the wrong place. Cord, and that can change a big reason why it's high. Yeah. So we'll try Speaker 0: Yeah. And you have access to Beau too. Right? Speaker 1: Yeah. We're we're we have access Procore bottles. No Spectrum. Speaker 0: I don't know how far you guys want to dig into it, right, as far as a number. But, like, if you go to a commitment and see that you know, Parker Precision Plumbing was my plumber, that's what I have on Avondale. If you go into the actual project folder for Avondale, you can see their exact quote and what they listed out as their scope items versus what I have in their commitment as a scope item. To get an idea. They're in a lot more medtail in their quote but we don't ever sign their quote or attach it Beau then agreeing to payment terms that we don't wanna agree to. So Okay. So that their original stuff's in Beau if we ever wanted to go find it. Correct. K. If y'all ever just wanted to see or compare, like, some of them will give you literally linear footage and stuff like that. You know what I mean? To where you could always compare the information this is kicking out. Yeah. That'd be perfect. And even for this one, around about half Speaker 3: highs. So I really don't know which numbers here are super high. Speaker 0: Yes. You can go look at my you can go down to division 33, so scroll all the way down. Make clear this. Speaker 3: I think, honestly, this is high risk. I think it's taken me to account things that were not just shell. Speaker 0: Okay. So all of your division 30 threes, division 33 is all Speaker 2: your Speaker 0: storm work. Speaker 1: Mhmm. So you've got your fire line, your water meters, domestic sanitaries. SOAP I filter for them? Speaker 2: Yep. Speaker 1: So I just filter Landon then I do Speaker 0: it should be I don't know how you would do that for just That's okay. We'll just we'll just go off of this. Or you can go n8n, sometimes, though, like, that's that's considered a phase one. Scope Beau it typically happens at the very first part of the job. Yep. My earthwork and utilities DMSA sometimes even the leads, like, home people all need one subcontractor, so if we go into the commitment, all of that might be combined, but I typically will break that out in the schedule of values. Which if you go to the commitment, you'll see each line item. Speaker 1: So What did you get for this Beau for the all the 33? Two forty Sean. Three one. Speaker 2: What do we need? It was, The storm water cost that you just Speaker 0: looked at. Speaker 1: Yours was, like, 2 something, like, $2.40. Speaker 0: There it was $2.43. Speaker 1: $2.43. So I'm just gonna Speaker 0: So you could look just at please. Go to the committed column. Speaker 3: Committed? Yeah. Committed cost. That's that's what we're actually committed to. Speaker 2: Okay. So this is 8,700 plus. 32 plus 57. So $70.65 65 under. So it's 5 here. Or 65 over? Speaker 1: And then the before so that's where we committed to. Yeah. And I think it's Speaker 3: always gonna be hard. It's never gonna be hard. I'm not sure. No. No. No. That's what we want. So I'll work on this. I'll try and So you you were Speaker 1: basically spot on for the original amount, though. So, like wait. So, Tiffany, what is what's the difference with between these two numbers? Original budget amount and then the committed costs. Speaker 0: Okay. So the we had 20,000 in for the water meters. Uh-huh. But that was written into somebody else's scope for that basically got covered by another cost code. Right? Oh, okay. So it's, like, basically built into, like, one of these? Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Speaker 0: So scroll all the way over to the right. To the over and under, k. See, it looks like I dropped that straight to project over and under because that was a cost savings that we had. So that's that's what we would call buyout savings. Speaker 1: Okay. So you saved so was is this the final cost, or is this just what you're saving on each of those categories? That's what we're saving on Speaker 0: of those categories. Okay. Cool. So, estimated cost of completion is what your final number is for that line item. Speaker 1: Oh, okay. So that's the is that the number that he should be trying to go for, or Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 0: Yeah. Probably. Because that incorporates all of the change orders and everything that we did. So 11032, and 57. Speaker 1: That's 200. It's a little bit closer. Yeah. Are we are we going off of the budget for these numbers, or are we going off Speaker 3: how much it thinks it's going to cost for subcontractors to do this? Speaker 0: I mean, our our our budgets that are put in, that is what gets approved at ICU. Right? Which is what we go to the bank and get subcontractor Speaker 2: for. And then Speaker 0: well, that's also the phase two budget is based off of supposed to be hard numbers from subcontractors that we pushed it out, and they've actually bid it. Right? So and that's done in our subcontractor department. This, however, would give us a good idea of if they are high or low. SOAP we only get one number in for Spectrum. And it's at Gray, well, this came back showing us a should really be around a hundred and thirty five, then we know, okay, we we really have 135 we really gotta go and find more stuff. We can't go with this guy. Okay. Right? Some people WSDL well, as long as it's under budget, they'll just go with it. But that doesn't always mean that it's the right number. Yeah. Right? SOAP in order just to save the company money, the best thing to do is to have multiple bids and the next, say, electrical in that area just runs higher, then we know then we now have historical data for the next go around. Yeah. So Alright. Awesome. Does that make sense? Yeah. No. 100%. Yeah. Definitely. Speaker 3: I think that in the law, we're to be honest, but I think we have a very good like, I think we have good moments for this. Yeah. I think that once we Landon get the the props tweaked and I'll narrow it down and be information right places, then we can be pretty accurate with this. Yep. And I think we Speaker 0: Sean. And I'm I'm I'm not as concerned with this spinning out such accurate numbers. That is a very that is a Gray great and it's gonna be really helpful. Right? Because that's something that even our subcontractor Sean department can use if, say, he doesn't get any electrical bids Landon he's going into phase two. He can Realtime, this is this is the plug I got. Right? Yeah. Beau I think the biggest portion of it is trying to make sure that we capture a full complete scope because a lot of our pants are not good enough. Speaker 6: Okay. So it's more about They have to recharge. Capturing full scope. Speaker 3: Than it is Right. Hundred percent accurate numbers. And that's just like line by line by line every little thing Speaker 1: with each detail you're saying? Right. Which is what it would then put into its commit free. Speaker 3: Awesome. Well, I appreciate it. Yeah. If we, we're done with any of this now. Okay. So week too. And so we kinda just go over everything again, shall we be meeting? SOAP Speaker 2: So that SOAP Goldberg. Gray Freddie. Your call has been No. Never mind. Meeting. Speaker 1: 03:30 is his meeting. Speaker 2: I told you. Let me try to open that on my Speaker 8: own. Speaker 2: Georgetown. After effects. Good. Like, the business side. It's, like, it's, like, $20 a month. Speaker 1: I might as well. I'm sure you're on the business card. I mean, if I was paying monthly, if Speaker 3: we get that and just cancel that in the first month. Yeah. Let's do it. Speaker 1: That's Beau about to win anyway. I don't know. I'm gonna wanna hear you say it. Speaker 2: Site details M M B. Joe, my do you want my login Speaker 1: You want me to log you n8n my my Procore account? Speaker 3: And does it put your son in the wall too? Yeah.